February 12, 2008

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YIPS from Steve-O: Think about it for a second: Obama's close to winning Virginia by a margin of two hundred thousand votes. In Virginia, on Lincoln's Birthday. Stunning.

Yips! from Gary:
Hear me now and believe me later.

She ain't dead yet. The primary calendar going forward favors her. And the long knives have yet to be drawn.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Pre-Coffee, Weather-Delayed Yips! back from Robbo: Agreed that it ain't over, but here's the question: At what point does she become so vicious in her despair that she actually starts damaging herself? She's basically betting the farm on Texas and Ohio (a la Rudy in Florida). If Obamessiah's mojo is too strong, what does she do? Lawsuits? Threats and bullying of superdelegates? There are already hints of that sort of thing. And what effect does all this have on voters, especially all those people who seem to be going ga-ga over Obama? Does she really think they're all going to get back in line and vote for her in the general?

I'm beginning - beginning, mark you - to think that even if SWMNBN manages to come back and grab the nomination, she goes into the general with so much battle damage that Little Mac would be grinning from ear to ear as he loads up the twelve-gauge.

Which may be what the GOP is dreaming of, after all.

Which might explain the "We Luv Ya, Hill!" bumpersticker on Karl Rove's car.

Posted by Robert at February 12, 2008 08:20 PM | TrackBack

that reminds me of somebody...

Posted by: Marvin at February 12, 2008 09:21 PM

At least one of my colleauges gleefully voted for Obamessiah yesterday as a way to stick it to SWMNBN.

Posted by: LMC at February 13, 2008 07:57 AM

Yup - so did somebody I know.

Posted by: Robbo the LB at February 13, 2008 08:43 AM

- congrats, llamas. comments section is back up.
- saw part of McCain's victory speech on CSPAN this morning. I think he could take out either comer. He was on message, powerful, positive, and very specifically gearing up for a clear cut ideological battle with either Dem. That'll make for a real election, not the walkover the Dems thought a year ago.
- I don't know is any of you saw the latest population growth stats, but wow hear come the hispanic folks. The new Irish and Italians. Thought question of the day: if Dem nominee is Obama, where does hispanic vote go? What if McCain - vilified by Ann Coulter and other party defectives - kept the Dems out with the hispanic vote? More importantly, where will that vote be going over the next decades?

Posted by: tdp at February 13, 2008 08:57 AM

I think part of McCain and Bush's apostasy on the border issue partially comes from them being from border states -- they say the backlash against Pete Wilson and how the Republicans were destroyed in California and they both said "we want no part of that." Reagan, to an extent, was similarly apostate.

The issue that is potentially a wedge for Republicans with Hispanics is that Hispanics are overwhlemingly Catholic, and substantially pro-life. I'd work the abortion issue with that group like Apollo Creed working the cut over Rocky's eye were I McCain. McCain's historic pro-life voting record is 100%.

On the Irish and Italians, it's kind of funny here in New England. The Yankees were all Republicans, so the Irish took over the Democratic party, and used it as their avenue to power. The Italians in Massachusetts got here later, and the Irish largely shut the Italians out.

That's why there are so many Republican Italians in Massachusetts.

I think Reagan saw (or thought) that potentially, the Hispanics could become for the Republicans what the African American community was for the Democrats (the Cubans in Miami, for example, are among the most reliable Republican voters in the coalition). The problem is, the Democrats have been very successful in pandering to the immigrant community to take them away. It is a real strategic problem for the Republicans.

Posted by: The Abbot at February 13, 2008 10:45 AM

Someone I know was thinking about voting for Hillary yesterday instead of voting in the Republican primary b/c she'll be easier to beat as the Dem nominee than Obama. Crazy world when you have to play mental games like "Survivor" just to prepare for a new President.

Posted by: Lynellen at February 13, 2008 02:06 PM