December 18, 2007
"The Hobbit" Possible Character List
Thought I'd start a whole new thread about this.
In a film version of "The Hobbit" there are four known returning characters - Bilbo Baggins, Gandalf (the Grey), Gollum and Elrond. Sir Ian McKellan, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving could easily reprise their roles from "The Lord of the Rings". Bilbo is questionable and might need to be re-cast with an actor younger than Ian Holm (though not necessarily). Having Holm would be ideal and I understand that their are digital options that could make him appear a bit younger than he did at the beginning of "The Fellowship of the Ring". Similar enhancements were made to Sir Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector in the movie "Red Dragon" to remove wrinkles and crow's feet in close-ups. The prequel took place ten years prior to the events of "The Silence of the Lambs".
As to the rest of the story, you definitely have thirteen Dwarves (most notably Thorin Oakenshield), Thranduil the King of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood, Beorn and Bard the Bowman.
In addition, you could have Galadriel and Saruman appear in scenes that took place during the story but were not written as part of the text. Additional appearances could include Radagast (as a member of the White Council), Legolas (as he is Thranduil's son), Gimli (in the Battle of the Five Armies) and Arwen (at Rivendell). Flashbacks could require appearances by Thror (Thorin's father) and famous Elves of Gondolin (a flashback that details the history of the Elvish blades, Glamdring and Orcrist). Perhaps, even the story of Celebrimbor and the forging of the Rings of Power could be weaved in.
So there is a lot of potential as far as additional scenes and characters that aren't necessarily part of "The Hobbit" as written but perfectly in line with additional material written by Tolkien and since published in other volumes.
And there's two schools of thought on this - 1) that the additional material enriches the story for those not familiar with "Unfinished Tales" or "The Silmarillion" and 2) that the extra padding simply bloats the simple story and needlessly stretches it out over two films. We'll have to wait and see.
As to the production itself, I could imagine that one of Jackson's assistant directors (or two) on "The Lord of the Rings" could be his choice(s) to direct rather than a more famous name like Sam Raimi. Someone with the experience of the last set of films could do well with Jackson as Exec Producer. Add that to the return of the Weta Workshop organization and most of the technical people who did the trilogy and Jackson's absence behind the camera might not even be noticed.
All in all I'm hopeful, but cautiously so.
Posted by Gary at December 18, 2007 03:12 PM | TrackBackAs an aside, I'd love to see The Silmarillion as a multi-part series. That's maybe three or more films right there, from Creation myth/Theft of the Silmarils/Curse of Mandos (film 1) to the wars against Morgoth (film II) to Beren and Luthien/Earendil the Mariner (film III) and heck, the fall of Numenor as a DVD extra.
I really don't see the Hobbit as two films. I see at as one three hour film, done properly. It's not any bigger than Harry Potter in terms of plot complexity, though it's certainly bigger in geographic scale -- Shire, wilderness, mountains, goblin lair, Mirkwood, Lake Town, Erebor -- though CGI works wonders. My fear is you give Jackson two films and he'll start inventing stuff like he did in the Two Towers. We'll have Legolas surfboarding behind the barrels and Galadriel snuffing Orcs with numbchucks in Dol Guldur before he's through.
I'd also go with someone other than Holm as Bilbo due to age. There's got to be some forty-something British actors of relatively small size who could do the job; we just haven't seen them yet.
I think all the Dwarves become unwieldy pretty quickly, too. How do you cast it? Actual stature-challenged guys (like Time Bandits) or do you just digitize a bunch of regular sized actors down to Hobbit scale? How do we differentiate between Oin and Gloin and Bifur and Bofur? The lack of women is also a problem -- we may see Barb the Bowwoman, or Beorn may end up as some sort of Xena figure.
I don't know. It makes me nervous.
As the voice of Smaug, though? Rickman.
Posted by: The Abbot at December 18, 2007 04:14 PMFilming the dwarves may not be as bad as that. Turn it around: assuming they stick fairly close to the book, how many characters who are not 'little people' share screen time with characters who are? By my quick mental tally, for between 1/3 and 1/2 of The Hobbit, every 'onscreen' character is either a hobbit or a dwarf, and for another third, the only Big Person included is Gandalf. It would be easier to apply some SFX tricks that enlarge Gandalf than to try to shrink the thirteen dwarves and one hobbit.
Posted by: wolfwalker at December 19, 2007 06:40 AMI am of two minds about this. Where Jackson LOTR movies did well they did real well. (Where is the Horse and Rider? Almost any scene involving the Rohirrim) So my hopes for the scenes on and about the Lonely Mountain are high. His deft handling of the Balrog makes me confident in his handling of Smaug, James Nesbitt would be great.
I would rather have a fleshier back story to include Galadriel and such so as to keep characters as they should be with no Bardeena shooting her mighty bow at Smaug.
Posted by: Taleena at December 19, 2007 07:24 PM