May 08, 2007
Gratuitous Domestic Posting (TM) - Shipwright Division
This may seem like a pretty random bleg, but does anybody out there have any bright ideas on how to go about constructing a model of a Viking longboat? This is the Nine and Seven Year Olds' joint history project this year and I've basically got a window of Friday morning to zap over to Michael's to get whatever supplies I'm going to need.
The sail, masts, oars, shields and benches won't present any problem. But planking the hull might. Unlike the Circus Maximus the elder gel and I put together last spring, this is all curvey and complicated. And both gels have stated that they want this year's model to be more realistic than last year's rayther more simplified effort. Right now I'm noodling trying strips of balsa glued over a cardboard shell, but if you've got a better suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
At least I had the bright idea of presenting the thing actually in the water, thereby eliminating the need to do the entire hull.
UPDATE: Oh, and while we're on the subject, why isn't Erik the Viking available on DVD? A cryin' shame, if you ask me.
Dude, you are so screwed.
Posted by: Mr. Johnson at May 8, 2007 10:52 AMAvoid all school projects that can't be made out of Legos.
Posted by: The Commissar at May 8, 2007 11:08 AMThe longboat I built with my dad at about that age was made from thin cardboard (slightly thicker than construction paper). The hull bottom was somewhat like a pointed banana, and then the sides were somewhat crescent-shaped; you can probably figure out the rough geometry more easily than I could explain it with words. We didn't actually "plank" it; we just drew on the lines with a black marker.
Not sure if this will help...
Posted by: JohnL at May 8, 2007 11:20 AMNo offense, but if you're going to all the trouble to cut and assemble balsa wood to the exterior, it would probably be just as fast and much stronger to cut out a keel and a few ribs to replace the cardboard structure.
Posted by: brainy435 at May 8, 2007 11:21 AMOddly enough, you can build a Viking longboat out of Legos, but it’s a little lacking in the realism department. I have to agree with the consensus: basically, you’re screwed.
My one constructive suggestion (no pun intended) would be to use strips of veneer for the hull, rather than balsa. They’re more flexible and much easier to work with, not to mention more woody looking.
If they have it, use sheet styrene instead of veneer or balsa. Check the area in the store around the dollhouses for materials. Or find a hobby shop that does model railroads.
Posted by: Ted at May 8, 2007 01:02 PMI would check with one of the boat-building sites. People build these things for real.....
If you are going to go with strips of balsa - not a bad idea - you will need something a bit more substantial for the keel. And I think you might want a couple of ribs to give the boat shape in the middle.
Not sure what glue would be good, but something quick - but not super-glue permanent - might be hard to find.
Of course you might be able to buy a model of a viking ready to be put together....
Posted by: Zendo Deb at May 8, 2007 07:05 PMhttp://seagifts.com/viklonwoodmo.html
a small price to pay..... but a small model
Posted by: Zendo Deb at May 8, 2007 07:10 PMhttp://www.sjolander.com/viking/plans/
*** runs and hides ***
Posted by: Zendo Deb at May 8, 2007 07:13 PMEach gel should have her own accurate model. I suggest adding a trireme.
Posted by: chuckR at May 9, 2007 07:08 AMIf you're going with balsa, get lots of extra and steam it. Pliability at model size can be a problem. Pitch and tar for tree wounds would provide interior strength. If you want to cheat: get a balsa sheet, score it, soak it, bake it, bend it. Don't stain until you have the shape you want.
Makes me miss hobby shops. We used to have quite a few in this area but they just kind of petered out. When I ask for model rocket engines and piano wire at craft stores they just kind of look at me in a funny manner. O tempore.
Posted by: Uncle Pinky at May 9, 2007 07:40 AMZendo - Thankee muchly for those plans! Seriously, that's just what I was looking for.
Yip! Yip!
Posted by: Robbo the LB at May 9, 2007 08:32 AM