October 06, 2007

Gratuitous Crossing the Tiber Posting

So this Sunday will be the first time I'll have set foot back in my old Palie church since the o-fficial word got out that I've resigned from the vestry and am headed for Rome. Reaction may be interesting:

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"Accept the Catholic magisterium? Why you little......"

We shall see.

UPDATE: Some kind words and a few sidelong glances. So far, nobody has come out and told me that they think I've gone quite mad, but I believe this to be the general consensus.

Posted by Robert at October 6, 2007 10:52 PM | TrackBack
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Sending you lots of good luck from France...

Posted by: Christine at October 7, 2007 03:35 AM

Ah! You will soon have access to an Exorcist. You should be able to find one among the Jesuits at Georgetown......You brother Steve-O should be Afraid. Very Afraid.....I'm sure he will now treat you with proper respect and adulation. Votive offerings too.

Posted by: IHSV at October 7, 2007 10:45 AM

Even on the Titanic there were folks who said," be patient, they'll get the leaking under control in no time."

Posted by: Mike at October 7, 2007 02:30 PM

Welcome to the church of the sinners (Teddy Kennedy) saints (Mother Teresa) Cynics (Flannery O'Connor) and idealists (John Paul II).


And a better Simpson link is LINK

Posted by: Boinkie at October 7, 2007 06:21 PM

Oddly enough, I have been reading about Anglican exorcists . . .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/westmidlands/series1/exorcist.shtml

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3818/is_200101/ai_n8942546

The Anglican church has them, too, and generally they are similar to the Catholic view/model of it. Evangelicals, though, have also discovered it -- the whole "deliverance ministry" is a growing phenomenon. Google it, it makes for quite an interesting bit of reading. It seems that as the evangelical churches spread throughout the third world, the demand for exorcism as a ministry has risen, as many animist religions, from which the evangelical Protestant (and Catholic and mainline) churches are winning converts, still have witch doctors, curses, and old gods. One can take a modernist view and proclaim it superstitious nonsense; nonetheless if the flock demands it, the church provides it.

Me, I think some of it is superstition, and some of it is real, frightening stuff. Exorcism is one of the great proofs of Christ's identity in the gospels, along with healing, and performing of nature/food miracles. The way it is discussed in Scripture certainly doesn't view the demonic as being some kind of metaphor; it views the demonic as a very real phenomenon.

Best stuff I've read on it is Fr. Gabriele Amorth's two books, which takes a fairly positive view of it as a ministry; a more frightening/pessimistic view of it is taken by Fr. Malachi Martin (a former Jesuit) in his 1970s classic, "Hostage to the Devil", which is one of the single most disturbing works I've ever read. He portrays the ministry as being one that takes a terrible toll on the exorcist, where Amorth sees it more or less as a routine, if unusual, form of work.

Some people feel Martin embellished his accounts; some feel he fabricated them; others believe they are accurate. He is a persuasive writer. At any rate, compelling reading. And by compelling, I mean terrifying.

I think in many cases, there is a large ratio of imagination to reality; Amorth, who is the retired exorcist for the diocese of Rome, believes that most of the cases he is referred simply suffer from a morbid imagination, but a percentage of his cases are nonetheless for real.

The Catholic view of it has evolved in the last 2000 years -- the office of exorcist used to be a "minor order" in the church, along with porter, resder, and acolyte, but the church has progressively reserved it to a priest, and only then, acting with permission of the Ordinary (the local bishop). The church views it as a problematic ministry for a number of reasons -- a) many cases are simply a morbid imagination or a psychological problem (such as disassociative personality), b) there is risk of harm to the demoniac in that they are often held down/restrained and there have been cases of people being suffocated or killed in the ritual (e.g., Annelise Michel), and c) there is a risk to the person performing the exorcism in using prayers in which one commands the demon to leave, without the proper authority (Acts 19:11-16, for example). The need for good judgment has led the church to increasingly restrict the office to an older priest "distinguished by his piety, prudence, and integrity of life".

It is a fascinating area of theological study. Perhaps too fascinating, because the Lord himself warned against making too much of it (Luke 10:17-20).

Posted by: The Colossus at October 7, 2007 07:13 PM

Episcopalians love to discuss sex more than any other group of people on earth. This affliction of poor manners at best, and complete perversion at worst, is particularly evident among their bishops. Since the best defense is always offense, in the future toss out these facts about their original Supreme Leader and see what they have to say. It will be amusing, trust me...:

"Despite having had one of the best kept medical records of the time, the cause of Henry VIII's death is still a matter of debate. I hereby offer my opinion and the facts that support it


"Patient History:

"Henry was an extremely cultured and accomplished young prince. He became a great and glorious ruler; the true hope of his people. But he degenerated into a cruel and unstable despot.

" Age 22

"He contracted smallpox but was not physically scarred by it.

" Age 33

"He has his first attack of malaria. This disease plagued him for the rest of his life.

"Age 35

"Suffered a serious jousting accident, after which he began complaining of chronic migraine headaches.
The extraordinarily painful leg ulcers began at about this time. He would suffer with them for the rest of his life. They eventually crippled him.

"In his late 30's

"Henry underwent a major personality change. He had always been wise and benevolent. But, slowly, he turned into an irrational and volatile ogre. His enemies could expect no mercy; neither could his friends, to say nothing of his wives.

"Age 44

"Henry suffered a severe jousting accident and was unconscious for about two hours. After recovery he continued to exhibit his usual fits of blind rage. But now they were aggravated by acute insomnia, painful sore throats, and recurrent, severe migraine headaches.

"Henry became prematurely gray and abnormally obese. It was reported that in one 4 year period his waist increased by 17 inches. They say 3 of the biggest men to be found could fit into his doublet at one time.

" Age 45

"He developed a strange growth on the side of his nose.

"Age 49

"He probably became sterile or impotent.

"Age 54

"He could hardly walk and was carried everywhere by sedan chair.

"He became increasingly absentminded, often issuing opposing orders on succeeding days.

" Age 55

" He spent the last 8 days of his life in bed. He was too weak to lift a glass of water to drink.

"He died amid the horrendous stench of his bursting leg ulcers.
"Lord Montague had predicted some time before, that Henry's "leg will kill him, and then we will have jolly stirring"

"Someone once prophesied that "...dogs will lick his bones as they did Ahab's." His body was being transported to Windsor for burial, and sometime during the night the coffin burst open. When the sentries found him, dogs were licking his remains.

"Medical follow-up - The fate of his children

"Edward VI - Was always sickly. He died at the age of 15 after his nails fell out and his body was covered by a rash.

"Mary I - Her husband, Philip of Spain, complained of the horrid stench that emanated from her nose. She died of Cancer.

"Elizabeth I - There is still question of if she could have had children. She never married, so we will never know.

"Conclusion - The Cause of Death

"His first two wives, Katherine of Aragon, and Anne Boleyn, suffered a number of miscarriages and stillbirths. None of his offspring had children. I agree there could be other reasons for both of those facts, however, added to Henry's medical history, I say they point to the inescapable conclusion that Henry VIII died of Syphilis."


Posted by: Florence Nightingale at October 7, 2007 07:16 PM

Colossus,
I've read both Amorth and Martin; I agree that Martin's book is disturbing. I actually don't recommend it for reading, as he goes into pornographic detail in some accounts, and paints images I would prefer never to recall. Amorth's book is more helpful and enlightening. I also remember reading a little 19th century publication (out of print, and I can't remember the priest's name who authored it) that was tremendously interesting and enlightening. He discussed the souls who offer themselves up as victims in reparation for sins by agreeing to do battle with the otherwordly--by agreeing to allow themselves to be possessed (kind of like Emily Rose).

Posted by: Christine at October 8, 2007 04:23 AM

Little known fact: yes indeed, Anglicans do have priests who perform exorcists, but usually when they are performing the rite the possessed turn their heads backwards and declare, Your mother serves piggly wiggly store brand white wine and velveeta in hell!

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