Or join a local church that ties itself to a traditional Anglican body, such as AMIA.

"In North America alone, groups that have moved away from the increasingly liberal mainstream include the Anglican Mission in America (AMIA), the American Anglican Council, the Anglican Communion in Canada, the Anglican Province of America, Forward in Faith North America, the Anglican Essentials Federation in Canada, the Anglican Network in Canada and the Reformed Episcopal Church.

The AMIA is a movement of churches with an Anglican heritage which joined up in 2000, under the sponsorship of primates based in Singapore and Rwanda...."

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C200502%5CFOR20050225a.html

Yes, I've heard of the AAC - I believe there are already a couple of affiliated churches in my area. Another distinct possibility.

Personally, I'm much more an ACC guy myself.

Go Cavs!

Robert, yes - they've been censured, of sorts. But three years as a timeframe? (btw, I read it as three months; perhaps that's only with regard to suspension from the Anglican Consultative Council.)

I'd say there's your glossing over. Anything can happen in the following three years. The Brits could have a V Gene foisted on - or hoisted by - their own constituency (from what I've gathered in conversations with some Anglican Brits, gay is okay). There could be a call to overturn or reexamine the 1998 resolution Lambeth issued after a previous reexamination of sexuality. The gap appears to be closing, especially given that leaders are calling for a hearing so the North Americans can "explain their views on homosexuality."

But the bottom line rests with the congregations. How has yours responded to this so-called modernization, and how does that square with your Christian beliefs? Is it condoned from the pulpit? From the pews? I mentioned before that we left ECUSA because the congregation in our new city was appostate; I love what Cranmer and Ridley had done for the church - they paid the ultimate price for clinging to scripture - the Anglican communion is nothing without it, which I suspect the North Americans will discover to their dispair.

I appreciate what the English reformers retained in certain compatible, spiritual and beautiful traditions from Rome - which are the main difference between Anglicanism and the Presbyterians - but the foundation is what is important. Without that, the traditions are meaningless.

Nobody expects the Anglican Schism! Bring on the comfy chairs and soft cushions.
Seriously, I haven't been following the debate that closely, but mightn't the US Anglicans be moving too far too quickly? If you are too far ahead of the pack, you aren't a leader, you're prey. This might be something that takes a couple of generations.

Tea and Cake or Death!

Now may be the time for you cross the Tiber. It sounds like a couple of our Cardinals (like Ratzinger and Arinze) would be right up your alley. And no, they can't make you vote one way or the other.

I'm wagering on schism.

I'm wagering Robert the LB will also become so enamored of the Papal Election process that he will end up crossing the Rubicon -- er, Tiber?

He definitely already has all the Stuart-Loyalist-Divine-Right-of-Kings tendencies.

Robert, I didn't expect it to happen either. Rome isn't an option for me, and there is one AAC parish here, but I'm not too fond of it. A blog friend of mine is Anglo-Catholic, but their churches are few and far between. I guess if it comes down to it, I'll be a churchless Anglican till something turns up. Though if schism does happen, there will probably be a shakeup locally with other people like me needing options. So that might open up some new avenues.

If it ever came to an actual schism, my parish might very well blow to pieces. The clergy are pretty liberal but the congregation is mixed. We've already had some defections but for the most part there's a truce that will hold so long as the problem is in Somebody-Else's-Diocese. What will happen if the issue is forced, I really don't know for sure but as I say, it could get ugly.

It's times like this I'm glad I grew up in a non-liturgical anabaptist denomination and currently attend a non-denominational evangelical church.

Robbo--start your subscription to The New Oxford Review. TNOR started out as an Anglican magazine but took the plunge on the Catholic Church a few years later and is now the magazine for pedal to the metal set. You are getting closer all the time . . .

Shh! Ot-nay in-ay ont-fray of-ay e-thay Issus-may!

Unfortunately, Rome is not all it's cracked up to be.

If you are interested in deep orthodoxy and beautiful, intelligent tradition, that went by the wayside decades ago. Your average Roman Catholic parish features goofy ceremonies and liturgies heavy on the children, improv, and lumpish women, wandering sermons, gutted liturgy, and minimal tradition. Not to mention inattentive, downright ill-behaved, congregations. Here on the Monterey Peninsula, they act like the whole thing's a joke.

By contrast, some of the Anglican or Anglo-Catholic churches in America, notably St Mary of the Angels Anglican Church in Los Angeles,are exceedingly rich spiritually and formally. The shorts-and-tank-top-wearing Roman Catholic nuns up the street take the catechism children on field trips to St Mary's to show them what the Church used to be like.

I have attended Roman Masses and first communions and can only admire faithful Catholics for their stubborn love of the Church on such scant rations. Their magnificent birthright has been swapped for a mess of pottage. I pray they will win it back.

I invite you to check out the Anglican Catholic church.

www.anglicancatholic.org.

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