April 24, 2005
BILLY CRYSTAL OVERLOAD
Mrs. LMC had the telly turned to one of the estrogen channels which was channeling When Harry Met Sally. I have never cared much for Billy Crystal because his character is almost always sensitive, vulnerable, and snivelling. To steal a characterization of Al Gore, he is so sensitive he is practically lactating. Do women find that attractive? Can anyone answer that? Anyone? Kathy? Bueller?
Posted by LMC at April 24, 2005 08:29 PMWomen want a guy who will be Aware, and Listening, Sensative, Thoughful, who feels their pain...kind of like Bill Clinton or John Kerry... When the chips are down, and those guys start equivicating, they'll be sweared as WIMPS...
Posted by: KMR at April 24, 2005 09:13 PMWell, women aren't just some huge monolith of similar wants. Some women like that stuff, some women need to feel that a man is non-threatening (openly so ... hence, the Alan Alda fascination, etc.) Some women don't like that sensitive stuff. I myself like extroverted manly guys - the opposite of the Billy Crystal type. To each her own.
Posted by: red at April 24, 2005 09:31 PMhis humor, no
Posted by: babs at April 24, 2005 10:45 PMActually, Billy's character was sort of an ass in that movie. At times. Remember? Not wanting to spend the night, hitting on Meg's character numerous times, particularly when he was already attached, etc. I didn't think he was overly sensitive, per se, but rather just managed to pull through in the right moments.
I can't speak for everyone else, obviously, but I know, that back in the day when I was single, I didn't want a man who wept into his beer when he read poetry. I'd actually preferred a guy who wept when he read the sports page, but that's just me.
Posted by: Kathy at April 25, 2005 12:40 AMI'm proud to say I've never seen that movie and have no intention to whatsoever.
As for BC himself, I rather like him in small doses. I thought his Miracle Max got exacty the right amount of screen time - anything more and he would have started to annoy me.
Posted by: Robert the LB at April 25, 2005 08:08 AMI love that movie, it makes me laugh out loud. I particularly love the "interview" sections, where they interview old couples about how they got together.
"I knew he was the one. I knew the way you know about a good melon."
And I agree with kathy - I wouldn't call that character "sensitive" in any way, shape, or form. That's the whole point of the film. He's kind of a schmuck, actually. Depends on your definition of sensitive, I suppose.
Posted by: red at April 25, 2005 08:53 AMI've dated a few Sensitive Men, actually. And the verdict? Next.
It's not that I think men "shouldn't" have feelings, but a lot of times, I suspect, men simply develop those tendencies in response to being emmasculated (immasculated?) by the gender feminist-influenced PC Wonderland we live in (see Andrea Dworkin's 'husband'). When a guy comes off as a 'sensitive man' it feels like a put-on right from the start and I don't really trust it. But then again I'm naturally reserved and those deeper feelings don't unfold in ME until quite a bit of time passes. I'm a pretty good shepherd of my own emotional needs and I neither need nor desire a man to "share his feelings" with me until I know him very well.
And my own guy (Marine officer, GW1 vet, yada yada - Mr. Masculine) is actually sensitive, but he really only revealed that deeper stuff to me after he knew he could trust me, after we were good friends. It feels special that way, like a gift that only I have access to. If he was like that right from the start, it wouldn't have meant as much to me.
Posted by: willow at April 25, 2005 11:25 AM